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PostSubject: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:35 am

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70926

Hitmontop + Kyorge leads seem to be popular.


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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:36 pm

Us two are the only competitive Pokemon Trainers, Troll... unless more happen to appear.

Discuss the playability and uses of Aggron.
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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:33 pm

ShinyPuffy wrote:
Us two are the only competitive Pokemon Trainers, Troll... unless more happen to appear.

Discuss the playability and uses of Aggron.

Sucks dick. Disregard use. Move on please.
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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:58 pm

ShinyPuffy wrote:
Us two are the only competitive Pokemon Trainers, Troll... unless more happen to appear.

Discuss the playability and uses of Aggron.

As everyone who would honestly even check this thread knows, probably not worth the focus sash as ground types can easily hop in and EQ away. May prove to be quite viable in Trick Room however, but even then Marowak, Clamperl, and Shuckle are preferred.

Also, having a friend who can RNG abuse, I may randomly pick up some tidbits of actually useful pokemon while cloning for him. More to come later.

(...anyone want a perfect IV PCP?)
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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:52 am

ShinyPuffy wrote:
Us two are the only competitive Pokemon Trainers, Troll... unless more happen to appear.

Discuss the playability and uses of Aggron.

Opinion:

Aggron is a neat Pokémon with good stat distribution and a good movepool—it is just hampered by two terrible 4x weaknesses to very common attack types. It is usable in OU play, but it is in the UU environment where Aggron can be a real force, battering everything in sight with its STAB Head Smash from its impressive base 110 Attack.

What sets Aggron apart from other Rock-types is its Steel-typing. This gives Aggron a whole slew of resistances, which means it will have an easier time switching in than most Rock-types.

Counter:
Switching into a 225 Base Power (factoring in STAB) attack, from an Attack stat of 350, is no easy task. Resisting Head Smash isn't enough; you need to resist it and have impressive defense. Donphan, Nidoqueen, and Claydol wall Aggron's Fighting and Rock attacks, but they need to beware of Choice Band Ice Punch and Aqua Tail. Milotic can switch in and OHKO Aggron if it packs 8 Speed EVs to outrun Aggron as well. Hitmontop can switch into Head Smash after an Intimidate and OHKO with a STAB Fighting attack. Quagsire and Gastrodon are only 3HKOed by Aggron's Head Smash as long as there are no Spikes on the field, and they can Recover and set up Curse. In OU, Swampert and Hippowdon are the two best counters since they resist Head Smash and aren't hit too hard by Aggron's coverage moves. They can both send STAB Earthquakes at Aggron, which will easily OHKO.

Revenge killing is far easier, especially if Rock Polish isn't in effect. Any Pokémon with a super effective special attack, or simply any Fighting- or Ground-type attack, will easily OHKO Aggron. Vacuum Wave works great if you need to revenge kill Aggron after Rock Polish, since it will likely not be able to survive it as long as it's coming from a decent Special Attack stat. Mach Punch will do well too, but Aggron can survive as long as it has a decent amount of HP left.

Most neutral special attacks will do good damage; just beware of Aggron's high attack power when using frail special sweepers.


tl;dr:
Focus sash sp.atker = kills off aggron. Super effect sp.atk = aggorn dead.
priority sp.atk = dead.

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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:45 pm

http://www.pokemonvgc.com/en/events/san-francisco.php

Wish me luck guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:51 pm

Good luck. What team are you using?
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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:59 am

Can't go due to complications within the family. My parents planned an unexpected trip to Taiwan on the tournament date. Oh well there's next year.

My original planned team was:

Rain Dance:

Lead:
Kyogre@Lum Berry
Modest
30SPE IV
252 HP/ 4 DEF / 252 SPA
~Thunder Wave
~Hydro Pump
~Ice Beam
~Thunder

Sweepers:
Jolteon@Choice Specs
Timid
4 DEF/ 252 SPA / 252 SPE
~Thunder
~Hidden Power Ice
~Shadow Ball
~Baton Pass (to switch out)

Palkia@Choice Scarf
Timid
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~Spacial Rend
~Surf
~Thunder
~Draco Meteor

Kingdra@Life Orb
Adamant
Ability: Swift Swim
252 Atk / 24 SpA / 232 Spe
~Dragon Dance
~Waterfall
~Outrage
~Hydro Pump

Support:
Bronzong@Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SpD.
0IV in SPE
~Reflect
~Light Screen
~Earthquake
~Hypnosis

And last Pokemon is still on hold.

I was in the process of making an OU Powerhouse Anti air though, but it's extremely flawed.
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PostSubject: Re: Compeitive Pokemon thread!   Thu May 20, 2010 1:34 am

Lets all congrats Zerowing on being #1 in America for now (lolol).
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